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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by Lloyd Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, thanks for that, Daniel. I should have guessed that Greenspun had done something similar in his time…

If you&#039;re interested in reading more on the history of these methods of controlling trolls, I also suggest having a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/117775/What-was-the-first-website-to-hide-trolls-activity-to-everyone-but-the-troll-himself&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this MetaFilter discussion on the topic&lt;/a&gt;.

It looks like at least one of these methods originated on the Citadel BBS system in the mid-1980s. Amazing, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thanks for that, Daniel. I should have guessed that Greenspun had done something similar in his time…</p>
<p>If you’re interested in reading more on the history of these methods of controlling trolls, I also suggest having a look at <a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/117775/What-was-the-first-website-to-hide-trolls-activity-to-everyone-but-the-troll-himself" rel="nofollow">this MetaFilter discussion on the topic</a>.</p>
<p>It looks like at least one of these methods originated on the Citadel BBS system in the mid-1980s. Amazing, really.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by Daniel Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good idea but by no means a new one.  Philip Greenspun describes doing this back in the 90s -

http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/case-studies.html (scroll down to find case 4: apparently they didn&#039;t have internal anchors in the 90s ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good idea but by no means a new one.  Philip Greenspun describes doing this back in the 90s -</p>
<p><a href="http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/case-studies.html" rel="nofollow">http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/case-studies.html</a> (scroll down to find case 4: apparently they didn’t have internal anchors in the 90s ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lloyd one other thing - was reading last night about the #MyTramExperience video and reading some of the comments on The Periscope Post article about it.

Until a moment ago I would have said that using Facebook comments – and so removing some anonymity – is a great way to stop hateful comments.

But some of these comments prove me wrong!  I forgot about the people who are *proud* of their extreme views. I guess that&#039;s less about trolling and more about what kind of free speech you&#039;re willing to allow on your platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lloyd one other thing — was reading last night about the #MyTramExperience video and reading some of the comments on The Periscope Post article about it.</p>
<p>Until a moment ago I would have said that using Facebook comments – and so removing some anonymity – is a great way to stop hateful comments.</p>
<p>But some of these comments prove me wrong!  I forgot about the people who are *proud* of their extreme views. I guess that’s less about trolling and more about what kind of free speech you’re willing to allow on your platform.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bryce Corkins &#8211; Design &#187; Weekly Recommended Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Hypergogue &#8211; Hyperlink Alternatives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And @fakelvis points me to Nick Carr&#8217;s Experiments in Delinkification piece via his own excellent-as-ever summary. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh nice.. disemvowelling!  I like the idea of the comment remaining but changed somehow, so that the rest of the community gets a sense of what&#039;s okay and what&#039;s not.  

It&#039;s interesting to think about how you can enforce non-anonymity, in increasing measures.. the geo IP definitely works, but you could in theory require people to give away more and more details about themselves, or to prove somehow that it&#039;s true (e.g. this is a recent photo of me here&#039;s a newspaper) or to have to use a facebook login that has over 20 friends, etc. You could require that they make a verified email publicly available, or to disclose where they work. Not sure if there are any legal constraints to this but I don&#039;t see why not. Amazing to think about the huffington post needing 25 f-t staff to comb through 35,000 comments a day.. no reason why they couldn&#039;t be involved with enforcing and validating the anonymity-disclosure too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh nice.. disemvowelling!  I like the idea of the comment remaining but changed somehow, so that the rest of the community gets a sense of what’s okay and what’s not.  </p>
<p>It’s interesting to think about how you can enforce non-anonymity, in increasing measures.. the geo IP definitely works, but you could in theory require people to give away more and more details about themselves, or to prove somehow that it’s true (e.g. this is a recent photo of me here’s a newspaper) or to have to use a facebook login that has over 20 friends, etc. You could require that they make a verified email publicly available, or to disclose where they work. Not sure if there are any legal constraints to this but I don’t see why not. Amazing to think about the huffington post needing 25 f-t staff to comb through 35,000 comments a day.. no reason why they couldn’t be involved with enforcing and validating the anonymity-disclosure too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by Lloyd Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these methods are great for managing trolls without overtly censoring their comments/activities.

Clive Thompson discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-04/st_thompson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some other methods to reduce their impact&lt;/a&gt;, but I find his solutions not as elegant as this.

Your idea of removing anonymity also goes to the heart of one solution suggested in the New York Times a while ago: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=all&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;per­sis­tent pseu­do­nymity&lt;/a&gt;.

However I do prefer your idea of &lt;em&gt;removing&lt;/em&gt; the anonymity of trolls, rather than keeping an identity persistent across the Internet. I can imaging using IP geolocation in some way here, for example by making the displayed name change from &quot;Anonytroll&quot; to &quot;Troll in the UK&quot; to &quot;Troll in Greater London&quot; to &quot;Troll in North London&quot; to, finally, &quot;Troll in Camden, London&quot;.

Nice…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these methods are great for managing trolls without overtly censoring their comments/activities.</p>
<p>Clive Thompson discussed <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-04/st_thompson" rel="nofollow">some other methods to reduce their impact</a>, but I find his solutions not as elegant as this.</p>
<p>Your idea of removing anonymity also goes to the heart of one solution suggested in the New York Times a while ago: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss&#038;pagewanted=all&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">per­sis­tent pseu­do­nymity</a>.</p>
<p>However I do prefer your idea of <em>removing</em> the anonymity of trolls, rather than keeping an identity persistent across the Internet. I can imaging using IP geolocation in some way here, for example by making the displayed name change from “Anonytroll” to “Troll in the UK” to “Troll in Greater London” to “Troll in North London” to, finally, “Troll in Camden, London”.</p>
<p>Nice…</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inventive Ways to Control Trolls by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are *brilliant* - my mind is racing to think of other ideas. I wonder if you could do anything to do with removing anonymity somehow, since that seems to be one of the reasons that many trolls get comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are *brilliant* — my mind is racing to think of other ideas. I wonder if you could do anything to do with removing anonymity somehow, since that seems to be one of the reasons that many trolls get comfortable.</p>
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		<dc:creator>The social networks &#171; Other People&#039;s Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] social circle. In many ways this makes it a better native of the Internet than Facebook is: as Lone Gunman pointed out some time ago, the great advantage of the Internet is that a) you&#8217;re not constrained by who or what you [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Scam &#171; My Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] found this website http://www.lonegunman.co.uk/2009/12/02/seven-psychological-principles-con-artists-exploit/  which is about the seven psychological principles that con artists exploit. These are as [...]</description>
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