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	<title>Comments on: The Benefits of a Classical Education</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.lonegunman.co.uk/2009/07/10/the-benefits-of-a-classical-education/comment-page-1/#comment-1732</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite true Lloyd.

I&#039;m more thinking of the sad fact that nowadays choosing a subject at university so often has to be clouded by practical issues of how you&#039;re going to earn a living at the end of it, which was almost certainly less of an issue in Tim O&#039;Reilly&#039;s time and space.

A classical education is usually regarded nowadays as a remnant of a bygone era when colonial administrators who could quip in latin were needed to keep Asia British etc. Nowadays, if you didn&#039;t do at least one buiness studies module (or whatever they&#039;re called these days) at university, there&#039;s a danger that people will to think of your relationship with education as self-indulgent and abstruse rather than thinking of how your knowledge can be applied to help others (or make other lots of money, sadly)*.

It is a terrible shame, but it is a fact of the world we live in.

(* the caveat being unless you studied classics at Oxford, in which case your tutor should be able to secure you a position in an investment bank without too much fuss, regardless of your subject&#039;s appicability.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite true Lloyd.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more thinking of the sad fact that nowadays choosing a subject at university so often has to be clouded by practical issues of how you&#8217;re going to earn a living at the end of it, which was almost certainly less of an issue in Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s time and space.</p>
<p>A classical education is usually regarded nowadays as a remnant of a bygone era when colonial administrators who could quip in latin were needed to keep Asia British etc. Nowadays, if you didn&#8217;t do at least one buiness studies module (or whatever they&#8217;re called these days) at university, there&#8217;s a danger that people will to think of your relationship with education as self-indulgent and abstruse rather than thinking of how your knowledge can be applied to help others (or make other lots of money, sadly)*.</p>
<p>It is a terrible shame, but it is a fact of the world we live in.</p>
<p>(* the caveat being unless you studied classics at Oxford, in which case your tutor should be able to secure you a position in an investment bank without too much fuss, regardless of your subject&#8217;s appicability.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.lonegunman.co.uk/2009/07/10/the-benefits-of-a-classical-education/comment-page-1/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.

I think it takes a person with deep insight to interpret the classics in a way like O&#039;Reilly--and especially so to purposefully integrate classical teachings into your life.

However, even with my very shallow understanding of Latin (3 years&#039; study), I feel to this day that it is one of my most worthwhile undertakings. Why this is, &lt;a href=&quot;http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/06/benefits-classical-education.html#comment-2066699&quot; title=&quot;Tim O&#039;Reilly&#039;s Comment on The Benefits of a Classical Education - O&#039;Reilly Radar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;O&#039;Reilly elucidated in a comment on the post&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I also find that knowledge of Latin and Greek provide a great boost for vocabulary. Knowing the origins of words helps you to see the layers of meaning. And in addition, I find I can often make out written inscriptions (say in museums) in any of the Romance languages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As you say, the classics will only take you so far. Without taking into consideration how they have influenced my personal philosophy (which some would no doubt argue is the &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; purpose of the classics), this is as far as they have taken me.

It&#039;s like any subject: studying it not because you deeply want to but because you think it&#039;s a path to glory and riches is a sure-fire way of not attaining either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.</p>
<p>I think it takes a person with deep insight to interpret the classics in a way like O&#8217;Reilly&#8211;and especially so to purposefully integrate classical teachings into your life.</p>
<p>However, even with my very shallow understanding of Latin (3 years&#8217; study), I feel to this day that it is one of my most worthwhile undertakings. Why this is, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/06/benefits-classical-education.html#comment-2066699" title="Tim O'Reilly's Comment on The Benefits of a Classical Education - O'Reilly Radar" rel="nofollow">O&#8217;Reilly elucidated in a comment on the post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I also find that knowledge of Latin and Greek provide a great boost for vocabulary. Knowing the origins of words helps you to see the layers of meaning. And in addition, I find I can often make out written inscriptions (say in museums) in any of the Romance languages.</p></blockquote>
<p>As you say, the classics will only take you so far. Without taking into consideration how they have influenced my personal philosophy (which some would no doubt argue is the <em>only</em> purpose of the classics), this is as far as they have taken me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like any subject: studying it not because you deeply want to but because you think it&#8217;s a path to glory and riches is a sure-fire way of not attaining either.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.lonegunman.co.uk/2009/07/10/the-benefits-of-a-classical-education/comment-page-1/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim O&#039;Reilly, born in the magical computer industry&#039;s magical 1954-1955 couple of years (Gladwell Alert), tells us that a classical education is a great thing to have and he&#039;s right, it is.

This reminds me though of a newly constructed bench in my local park with a plaque containing a quote from its recently deceased donors saying 

&quot;Don&#039;t worry and don&#039;t hurry&quot;

That&#039;s nice, but it leaves me with an uncomfortable feeling that the advice will sound very hollow nowadays to younger people. A bit like a wealthy inheritor advising people not to obssess about money.

I know of at least two classics graduates (from good universities) who work behind the counter in bookshops (as opposed to owning a publishing empire).

So by all means, take his advice and learn classics at university. It&#039;s a great and interesting discipline I&#039;m sure. It&#039;ll certainly influence your personal and business life, but probably not how you&#039;d want it to.

Just saying n&#039;all ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim O&#8217;Reilly, born in the magical computer industry&#8217;s magical 1954-1955 couple of years (Gladwell Alert), tells us that a classical education is a great thing to have and he&#8217;s right, it is.</p>
<p>This reminds me though of a newly constructed bench in my local park with a plaque containing a quote from its recently deceased donors saying </p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t worry and don&#8217;t hurry&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s nice, but it leaves me with an uncomfortable feeling that the advice will sound very hollow nowadays to younger people. A bit like a wealthy inheritor advising people not to obssess about money.</p>
<p>I know of at least two classics graduates (from good universities) who work behind the counter in bookshops (as opposed to owning a publishing empire).</p>
<p>So by all means, take his advice and learn classics at university. It&#8217;s a great and interesting discipline I&#8217;m sure. It&#8217;ll certainly influence your personal and business life, but probably not how you&#8217;d want it to.</p>
<p>Just saying n&#8217;all &#8230;</p>
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